BAT three giants on the same platform “fake”: Robin Li said that now a lot of fake AI, Ma Yun said block chain, IoT also has “fake”.
With regard to AI, BAT’s three eldest children have been isolated from each other for more than once. The Guiyang world fair and the world intelligence Congress in Tianjin have left their arguments. In August 23rd, at the first China International Intelligent Industry Fair opened in Chongqing, Robin Li, Ma Yun and Ma Huateng also expressed their views on AI again.
At the conference, Robin Li made a speech entitled “AI new thinking of smart city”. Robin Li said that artificial intelligence is not bionics. At this stage, we should not try to make people look like human beings. We should not spend time on how to make the robot with “human head” learn how to walk, up and down stairs. Instead, we should focus our efforts on how to make robots understand you better.
Robin Li believes that in recent years, the innovation of AI technology and algorithm has little to do with the working principle of human brain. For humans, how the human brain works has not yet been clarified, and it is impossible to imitate the human brain with a machine. AI does not imitate human brain, but uses machine to realize the value and function that human brain can achieve.
In his speech, Ma Huateng focused on the role of digital technology in the transformation and upgrading of various industries and basic scientific research innovation. He said that in many areas, compared with European and American counterparts, there are still many gaps. Sino-US trade frictions, not only let us more soberly see this point, but also on the global science and technology industry synergy innovation impact, and even began to shake the last two decades of global science and technology industry prosperity and development foundation.
Ma Huateng said that China is facing an unprecedented digital revolution, to be ready to run a “marathon”.
Machine intelligence and the future manufacturing service industry are problems that Ma has been emphasizing. Today, he said again, after new retailing, new manufacturing is the key, new manufacturing is the new impetus for economic transformation, and intelligent technology is the key technology of new manufacturing can not be overstepped.
Ma Yun believes that the key step in the transformation of manufacturing in China is to truly achieve intelligence, using big data, cloud computing, Internet of Things to achieve on-demand customization, with the Internet, around the market and consumer demand from B2C to C2B.
The following are their main views on dry goods:
Robin Li: many AI is still “fake”.
Robin Li believes that the importance of AI has been recognized by the public. But after all, artificial intelligence is a new thing, there are many specific directions, people’s cognition is very different, he proposed that the public’s understanding of artificial intelligence, at least three misunderstandings.
First of all, he says, when many people today imagine the concept of artificial intelligence, they still think of a machine that looks like a human being, which is the first misunderstanding. “Artificial intelligence shouldn’t look like people, our experience shouldn’t be spent on how to build a machine to look like people, shouldn’t be spent on how to make the machine learn to walk, how to learn to run, how to learn to go up and down stairs, this is a mechanical age of thinking. If we want this machine to replace man’s physical strength, we have solved this problem in the industrial age, we have to solve is to let the machine think like man.
The second misunderstanding is related to how machines think like humans. Robin Li said that many studies are now studying how the human brain works, and in his view, this road is not feasible. Artificial intelligence is not bionics, now the technology of artificial intelligence, a variety of algorithms, innovations in recent years with the working principle of the human brain is not really much to do. In fact, he argues, humans have not yet figured out how the human brain works, and it is impossible to imitate how it works with machines. So, he said, artificial intelligence is not to imitate the working principle of the human brain, but to use the way the machine can achieve the value or function of the human brain.
The third misunderstanding is artificial intelligence “threat theory”. Many people worry that one day human beings will be controlled by machines. The technology we build ourselves will destroy us one day, Robin Li said, which is absolutely unnecessary. Because it is very far away from us to make machines think like human beings.
Robin Li said that AI is far from real people’s way of thinking, ability and possible risks. Therefore, at this stage we should be more concerned about the problem, or technology maturity is not fast enough, there will be problems, such as automatic driving in fact, there are many technical problems have not been solved, we see today the so-called intelligence, many times false. For example, today’s smart speakers, in conversation, do not really understand the true meaning of your words most of the time. “So our goal is not to build a robot with four limbs and a head, but whether it can understand what you mean when you talk to it, and then it can serve you as you want. We are working hard in this direction, but our ideal state is far from enough. “
Robin Li also mentioned that the automatic driving industry itself has its own rules. Autopilot can also change many things in the future. For example, for urban congestion, automatic driving can be used to solve the problem of parking before it is completely open or accepted by people. He also hopes that through our own efforts, through the use of technological means, to promote the technology industry, promote transportation, promote all walks of life to intelligent development, enhance people’s sense of satisfaction.
Ma Huateng: don’t give up the dream of playing world wave in the science and technology field.
This time, in order to let more people understand the prospects of digital change, Tencent has set up a science and technology exhibition area covering more than 2,000 square meters at the Expo, showing the latest products of Tencent in the fields of digital government, intelligent transportation, intelligent tourism, intelligent life, etc. to help participants in the Expo deeply perceive the artificial intelligence, cloud computing, nothing. People’s driving and other cutting-edge technologies bring about intelligent life.
In his speech, Ma Huateng also mentioned that in the past four months, Sino-US trade frictions and other factors have also brought some impact on our industry. In the new situation, he has some opinions on how to develop digital technology and intelligent industry.
Ma Huateng said, first of all, we need to sink our hearts and learn to play the “headwind”. Over the past twenty years, it is the “golden period” for the development of the Internet and technology industry in the world. China’s Internet industry has been developing at a high speed. Especially after the rise of mobile Internet, the number and proportion of mobile Internet users in China even exceeded that in developed countries. The application innovation based on the mobile Internet has also attracted the attention of many international enterprises. But Ma Huateng also said that in many areas, compared with European and American counterparts, there is still a big gap. Sino-US trade frictions, not only let us more soberly see this point, but also on the global science and technology industry synergy innovation impact, and even began to shake the last two decades of global science and technology industry prosperity and development foundation. We have to move forward in this globalized upwind. To play against the wind, we need not only to stabilize our foot, withstand the pressure and play every ball well, but also to strengthen our confidence, firmly grasp the development track of transformation and upgrading, and not let go.
Ma Huateng disclosed that Tencent and Chang’an Automobile in-depth cooperation, hoping to achieve intelligent connectivity between people and various on-board services. In the driving process, the car owners use voice instead of manual operation, connect instant messaging tools, play music, listen to news, complete payment and so on, not only to open up Tencent’s massive digital content resources, but also the depth of the use of Tencent in the Internet of Things, artificial intelligence and other fields of technology. In addition, Tencent is working with the Chongqing government and enterprises to build an intelligent super-computing center, with the help of digital technology, all aspects of automobile manufacturing data through high-performance calculation and analysis, output of research and development, design, manufacturing and other aspects of the optimization program.
Second, we are facing an unprecedented digital revolution, and we need to be ready to run the marathon, Ma said. China’s digital process has expanded rapidly from the economic field to the people’s livelihood, government affairs and other fields. Digital innovation is deeply integrated with various vertical fields, and began to sink to the viscera of all walks of life. We need to carry forward the “digital craftsman spirit” and polish every detail, while doing a good job of digital products and services “downward compatibility”, driving the disadvantaged groups, the elderly and the poor to share digital dividends.
The third point he proposes is never to give up the dream of kicking the world wave. From the industrial point of view, in the past, we often saw a large investment in basic research, far away, more options for application. In the long run, our basic research is still weak, with few original innovations. Ma Huateng said that it is time for the government and enterprises to work together to change the status quo.
Ma Yun: new manufacturing is the perfect combination of manufacturing and service industries.
Ma Yun’s speech focused on “intelligent manufacturing”. In his speech, he argued that new manufacturing is the new driving force for the transformation of the new economy, and intelligent technology is the key technology of new manufacturing.
He believed that the changes brought by this technological revolution far exceeded our imagination. In the next 30 years, intelligent technology will penetrate into all aspects of society, changing the traditional manufacturing, service, education, medical and other industries, all life is inseparable from intelligent manufacturing. “The future is not the world of our Internet companies, but the world of Internet companies and intelligent technology companies.”
New retail is redefining retail. In Ma Yun’s view, new manufacturing must redefine new manufacturing. It must be a perfect combination of manufacturing and service industries. New manufacturing must also be B2C to C2B. Customization and personalization must be the perfect combination of real economy and virtual economy. Traditional manufacturing industries such as America, Gree, Haier, etc. are doing well, but with good Internet marketing, good sales, the numbers look good.
“Some people say that without manufacturing, where the Internet retail, where the e-commerce, in fact, no e-commerce, these people’s stock will be very ugly, no sales at all.”
Ma Yun mentioned that China’s manufacturing industry must be truly intelligent, must move from B2C to C2B, must make good use of large data, cloud computing, Internet of Things to achieve customization on demand. Integration with the Internet, with the market, with smart manufacturing, around consumption, is a key step in the transformation of China’s manufacturing industry. Today’s manufacturing industry, whether good or bad, must seize the future opportunities.
Ma Yun believes that new manufacturing is the perfect combination of manufacturing and service industries. There will be no pure manufacturing and service industries in the future, and the manufacturing industry in the future must be service industries. The future manufacturing industry is not standardized and large-scale, but individualized, customized and intelligent. Manufacturing was the center of the past, and creation was the center of the future. Manufacturing in the future is no longer the main engine of employment. Artificial intelligence and robots will replace a large number of jobs. The engine of the future manufacturing industry will also be the modern service industry. In the future, 90% of retail sales will be on the Internet and 90% of manufacturing will be on the Internet.
Ma Yun said that intelligent manufacturing, IoT, block chain will determine the future of the three core technologies, data is a key element of new manufacturing. IoT and block chain technology are driving dramatic changes in the Internet itself, but today’s IoT is not the final form of IoT. “I think many people who sell hardware or sell software find a reason to sell better.”
Finally, it is not technology that changes the world, but the ideals behind it, and it is not intelligence that leads the future, but the wisdom of the people behind it. Ma Yun said he believed that machines would be smarter than human beings, but human beings were more intelligent than machines. Machines can be faster than people, stronger than people, smarter than people, but machines have no values, no dreams, no love. And the previous man-machine war, in his view is a joke, people and machines than chess, and people and car race, self-humiliation.
Speaking of how to deal with new things, Ma once again talked about the famous British Red Flag act. In 1865, the British Parliament passed a Motor Vehicle Act, which stipulated that every motor vehicle traveling on the road should not exceed 4 miles per hour, and constantly waved the red flag to drive the vehicle. Therefore, it was called the Red Flag Act. This absurd rule gave Britain the opportunity to develop the auto industry.
Ma Yun appealed that, with the technological change and the rise of new manufacturing, we must establish new production relations to adapt to the development of new productive forces.
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